Sunday, January 23

Glenn Beck Defends "Shoot Them In the Head" Comments

Yes, Glenn Beck has stepped forward to defend, justify and rationalize this comment:

Beck: Shoot me in the head, before I stop talking about founders. Shoot me in the head, if you try and change our government.


You're going to have to shoot them in the head, but be warned - they might shoot you first. Karl Marx is their George Washington, you'll never change their minds. Nancy Pelosi, those are the people you should be worried about.

You see, we've got it all wrong. Like the original Shirley Sherrod Video Beck claims that this is really a cry "for peace" and a warning that the people Democrats need to worry about becoming violent - are all on the Left.

Via Media Matters

Beck: "Did Glenn Beck really tell his audience to Shoot people in the head". This is the worst of the worst. This is the Left, and those who don't care about truth, honor or justice at all.

Stu: It's just so blatant. They don't even try to hide it anymore.

Beck: And will do anything they have to do to discredit, dishonor and inflame. This is so easy to explain...

Beck's claim is essentially that he wasn't inciting anyone to violence, he was warning against the danger Radical Revolutionary Leftists to Democratic Politicians and the "Leftist" Media.

Beck: In this clip I am warning that "They" the Revolutionaries who have been co-opted by the Politicians. I was warning, that if they feel betrayed, if they feel that you've been using them - they'll kill you.

Stu: We know that because they've said it in their own words.

Ok. Beck believes that somewhere there are raving bands of Communist Radicals in the U.S. who are ready to take up arms against politicians that dare to betray their Leftist Ideals.


So why didn't we see a violent uprising after the Public Option was removed from Health Care Reform? Why didn't we see an uprising and violent overthrow of the Government when Bush stole the Election against John Kerry in Ohio? Why didn't people protest in the streets after Abu Ghraib? Why haven't they gotten out their pitchforks when the Volker Rule was dropped from Wall Street Reform?

Beck: They believe in despotism. They think they're the enlightened ones - just like the Nazis believed they were the enlightened ones. Now, the progressive movement is co-opting everybody. People that believe violent revolution and death camps. Bill Ayers talked about death camps... that there will have to be 25 Million that will have to be exterminated.

He said what?. Well apparently he's referring to a claim made by a former FBI Informant back in 1982 after the case against Bill Ayers, Bernadette Dorn and the Weather Underground had completely fallen apart.

I asked, “Well what is going to happen to those people we can’t reeducate, that are diehard capitalists?” And the reply was that they’d have to be eliminated.

And when I pursued this further, they estimated they would have to eliminate 25 million people in these reeducation centers.

And when I say “eliminate,” I mean “kill.”

Twenty-five million people.

I want you to imagine sitting in a room with 25 people, most of which have graduate degrees, from Columbia and other well-known educational centers, and hear them figuring out the logistics for the elimination of 25 million people.

And they were dead serious.

This was a theoretical discussion initiated and pursued by the agent himself, not a "Plan", as to what might happen in a Red Dawn situation where the U.S. Government had collapsed and other communist countries from Cuba, to North Korea and Russia were occupying our territory. This wasn't a plan because until they had this discussion none of them have ever previous thought about the subject.

It's not like this was ever a rational possibility, and Beck ignores the fact that the goal of the Weather Underground wasn't to overthrow the U.S., it was to end the Vietnam War - and since that war is over - all this "Revolution" talk is meaningless.

People on the Right also conveniently ignore the reason why prosecutors dropped the Weather Underground case - because FBI informants like this had broken the law and couldn't be trusted as witnesses.

By the end of April, the FBI offices were to terminate all files dealing with leftist groups.[31] The files were a part of an FBI program called COINTELPRO.[32] However, after COINTELPRO was dissolved in 1971 by J. Edgar Hoover,[33] the FBI continued its counterintelligence on groups like the Weather Underground. In 1973, the FBI established the 'Special Target Information Development' program, where agents were sent undercover to penetrate the Weather Underground. Due to the illegal tactics of FBI agents involved with the program, government attorneys requested all weapons- and bomb-related charges be dropped against the Weather Underground. The Weather Underground was no longer a fugitive organization and could turn themselves in with minimal charges against them

All charges against Bill Ayers and Bernadette Dorn were Dropped because the FBI broke the law and it wasn't just a few crimes - it was thousands. For example the FBI had a habit of lying to Congress.

A 25-year FBI veteran, M. Wesley Swearingen, claimed that the FBI routinely lied to Congress about the number of break-ins and wiretaps: "I myself actually participated in more than 238 while assigned to the Chicago office, [which] conducted thousands of bag jobs." Swearingen charged that agents had lied to a Washington grand jury about the number, locations, and duration of illegal practices in pursuit of the Weather Underground.[10] FBI director William Webster disciplined only six of the 68 agents referred to him by the Justice Department. Felt and Miller were convicted in 1980, and a few months later were pardoned by President Reagan. Today the FBI can still use these same techniques, simply by mislabeling their targets as foreign agents or terrorists.

Other FBI crimes from that period included planting false evidence and witness coercion. The case against Ayers and Dorn was dropped because it wasn't possible to trust what these people say.

Today - 30 years later - Bill Ayers is a college professor and as peaceful as a baby lamb. The idea that Ayers would still want the U.S. Government collapsed, even after the end of the War, even after the Church Commission and establishment of the FISA Court to protect the privacy of citizens against the actual Government Overreach and Intrusion that was occurring under COINTELPRO - is frankly ridiculous.

Y'know who else Beck claims has called for a violent Revolution?

Van Jones.

VAN JONES, FORMER WHITE HOUSE ADVISER FOR GREEN JOBS: I think that when we look back to the history of the Obama administration and look back at the history of our progressive movement, that this week will mark a historic inflection point when progressives decided to be progressive again in this country. I think something shifted this week.

Ok, that's a great example. Not.

The third person whom Beck claims is a Radical Revolutionary is Frances Fox Piven who like the Weather Underground may have once talked about "Overthrowing the Government" during the 60's, but today is a simply calling for the Unemployed and Disenfranchised to get organized and demonstrate on their own behalf.

So where are the angry crowds, the demonstrations, sit-ins and unruly mobs? After all, the injustice is apparent. Working people are losing their homes and their pensions while robber-baron CEOs report renewed profits and windfall bonuses. Shouldn't the unemployed be on the march? Why aren't they demanding enhanced safety net protections and big initiatives to generate jobs?


Nothing like this seems to be on the agenda. Instead the next Congress is going to be fixated on an Alice in Wonderland policy of deficit reduction by means of tax and spending cuts. As for the jobless, right-wing commentators and Congressional Republicans are reviving the old shibboleth that unemployment is caused by generous unemployment benefits that indulge poor work habits and irresponsibility.

Mass protests might change the president's posture if they succeeded in pressing him hard from his base, something that hasn't happened so far in this administration. But there are obstructions to mobilizing the unemployed that would have to be overcome.


Losing a job is bruising; even when many other people are out of work, most people are still working. So, a kind of psychological transformation has to take place; the out-of-work have to stop blaming themselves for their hard times and turn their anger on the bosses, the bureaucrats or the politicians who are in fact responsible.

Almost sounds to me like what she's calling for - IS A TEA PARTY and a heaven forfend a March on Washington to show our Government to support the people and the workers, not the fat cats and the corporations.

There's nothing violent in this request. This is not a call to revolution. But in Beck's fevered mind - it is.

Beck: I'm not calling for revolution. I'm begging for people to start paying attention to those people who are.

No, really they aren't calling for that Glenn - and that's why no one is becoming alarmed about it, except you and the people you are deliberately deluding.

Funny then, that after smearing and distorting the words and actions of these others - Glenn and his cohorts would start whining about how they've been smeared and distorted.

Stu: When someone sends a video like this edited Shirley Sherrod style. I can't believe they're trying to take down Glenn. It's almost as important what the person who edited that video thinks. They are convinced that the American people are so dumb, that they won't do 5 minutes of research to see what you're talking about.

Beck: I always ask people to do they're own homework. They can not ask you to do that because the second they do - you're exposed. It's what they think of their own followers. They're ranchers, and the people are cattle. That's why they say "Your boss did this to you".

Well, I did do my own homework Glenn - and what I found out was that you're still a lying prick.

And actually, sometimes the Boss did do it particularly when he's decided to move your job to China, just as Boeing announced it would do TODAY for 1000 workers in Southern California.

Bottom line is this: It's fair to say Beck wasn't literally calling for a violent overthrow of the government, or for a violent revolution. He wasn't literally calling for people to go out and Shoot each other in the head - he was ginning up Phony Unfounded Fears of Left-Wing Radical Revolutionaries that frankly don't exist, and rationalizing a self-defensive counter attack against them.

Basically he was authorizing a Jihad against the "Violent" Left that is long gone, while simultaneously blaming them for it with made-up exaggerated bullcrap. This is a trick Beck's been playing for a long while, like

But y'know at least he wasn't suggesting that a member of the U.S. Congress be Murdered with a Shovel - or someone should Line them Up and Shoot 'em In the Head.

Beck: I've been sitting here for the last few minutes trying to come up with a list of people I'd like to wack over the head with a shovel.

VO: And now "People We'd like to Beat to Death with a Shovel".

Beck: Charlie Rangel. (Clang!) See, I feel better already. There is a time for everything, for every season there is a purpose. And today, the season is, Clubbing people over the head with Shovels

Thank God, no one might take a clip like that and think Beck has a long habit of issuing death threats against members of Congress. Cuz, y'know that would be like a rancher leading his cattle out to graze on some fresh bails of hate.

And if anyone ever acted on any of Beck's Bile - like say Byron Williams, Charlie Wilson or Gregory Guisti I'm sure he would denounce them - right?



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