Vyan

Wednesday, November 11

FBI Found Maj Hasan was NOT a Terrorist!

Ok, this needs to be said and said loudly. The FBI and Joint Terrorism Task Force Both Investigated Maj Nidal Hasan and found he was NOT a Terrorist.

The major, a 39-year-old US-born Muslim of Palestinian descent, was scrutinised by an FBI-led joint terrorism task force because of a series of e-mails between December 2008 and early 2009 with Mr al-Awlaki.

US officials said the content of the e-mail messages did not advocate or threaten violence, and was consistent with Maj Hasan's research for his job as an army psychiatrist, part of which involved post-traumatic stress disorder stemming from US combat operations in Iraq and Afghanistan.


This of course is not how the Right Wing Wants to See it.

Right now Michelle Malkin is on a anti-secret jihadi crudade: The "enemy" is everywhere - Everywhere! Be afriad!


Blind diversity=death. Here's a reminder of the GOP's own P.C. jihadi-coddling problem. Face it: (link removed)

P.C. festered under W. Continues under O. Jihadi influences in military, FBI, prisons, fire depts: (link removed)


The FBI didn't see it that way (Via the Weekly Standard)

Major Hasan came to the attention of the FBI in December 2008 as part of an unrelated investigation being conducted by one of our Joint Terrorism Task Forces (JTTFs). JTTFs are FBI-led, multi-agency teams made up of FBI agents, other federal investigators—including those from the Department of Defense—and state and local law enforcement officers.

Investigators on the JTTF reviewed certain communications between Major Hasan and the subject of that investigation and assessed that the content of those communications was consistent with research being conducted by Major Hasan in his position as a psychiatrist at the Walter Reed Medical Center. Because the content of the communications was explainable by his research and nothing else derogatory was found, the JTTF concluded that Major Hasan was not involved in terrorist activities or terrorist planning. Other communications of which the FBI was aware were similar to the ones reviewed by the JTTF.


The fact that the FBI found that his contacting this Imam was completely innocent and consistent with his actual JOB is something that rightwing simply can not fathom and understand. If he emailed the guy, he must have Supported the guys Agenda Right?

Two of 9-11 hijackers had visited al-Awlaki's former Mosque in Virginia, to the Standard this makes him an "al Qeada recruiter". My thinking is that these guys had been recruited into al Qeada a long time before they reached Virginia, and blaming this Imam for aiding and abetting 9-11 is like blaming Mohummad Atta's Landlord and Green Grocer.

Awlaki is an active al Qaeda cleric and recruiter. Undoubtedly, that’s why he was being investigated in December 2008 in the first place. Moreover, Awlaki and his followers assisted three 9/11 hijackers here on U.S. soil before their day of terror and, according to the Congressional Joint Inquiry into the September 11 attacks, Awlaki was a “spiritual advisor” for at least two of them.

Why would a member of the U.S. military contact a major al Qaeda ideologue to discuss his research? The only way that could be justifiable is if that American serviceman was collecting intelligence on Awlaki and his operations. But there is no evidence that this was the case here.


No, that's not the only reason.

Maj Hasan had attended the same Virginia Mosque, hence his connection to al-Awlaki - he didn't just contact him out of the blue - and was apparently working on a project that addressed the issues and stresses that were uniquely placed on Muslim fighting as members of the U.S. Armed Forces - and how those stresses might threaten the force.

in late June 2007, he stood before his supervisors and about 25 other mental health staff members and lectured on Islam, suicide bombers and threats the military could encounter from Muslims conflicted about fighting in the Muslim countries of Iraq and Afghanistan, according to a copy of the presentation obtained by The Washington Post.

"It's getting harder and harder for Muslims in the service to morally justify being in a military that seems constantly engaged against fellow Muslims," he said in the presentation.

The title of Hasan's PowerPoint presentation was "The Koranic World View As It Relates to Muslims in the U.S. Military." It consisted of 50 slides. In one slide, Hasan described the presentation's objectives as identifying "what the Koran inculcates in the minds of Muslims and the potential implications this may have for the U.S. military."

He also sought to "describe the nature of the religious conflicts that Muslims" who serve in the U.S. military may have and to persuade the Army to identify these individuals.


To further emphasize this point, Hasan himself was the victim of anti-Muslim harrasment.

In mid-August, just a few weeks after moving to Killeen, Hasan had a run-in with a soldier living in apartment No. 12. One night after he had been drinking, John Van de Walker scraped a key along the full length of the passenger's side of Hasan's car. Then he removed and destroyed a bumper sticker that read, "Allah is Love," according to several residents, including live-in managers John and Alice Thompson.

Van de Walker had recently returned from service in Iraq and was distraught that his neighbor was a Muslim, Alice Thompson said. Shortly after the incident, Van de Walker's girlfriend, Jenni, came to visit Alice Thompson.

"I can't believe what John just did," Thompson recalled the woman saying. "John just keyed Number Nine's car. I told him, 'You're back from Iraq now, and you can't be doing anything that pops in your head like that.' "

Hasan filed a police report, but neighbors said he did not seem too bothered. According to the Associated Press, Van de Walker was arrested Oct. 21 and was charged with criminal mischief.


As of today ABC News has reports that there were more contacts than just one former Virginia Cleric that the FBI had been tracking. The nature of these contacts is not described as being any different than those that were already known, looked at, and considered innocent - yet that hasn't stopped the FEAR BRIGADE from starting a finger-pointing storm between the FBI and the Army as to who should have told who about what and when...

The FBI said it turned over the information to the Army, but Defense Department officials today denied that. One military investigator on a joint terror task force with the FBI was shown the e-mails, but they were never forwarded in a formal way to more senior officials at the Pentagon, and the Army did not learn of the contacts until after the shootings.


I may be speculating here, but I suspect this information wasn't forwarded - or if it was forwarded, was ignored - because there was nothing remarkable about it.

Even the Car Keying incident doesn't seem to be an easy source for Hasan's ultimate explosion as he stated afterward "It's (Ramadan) a time to forgive everybody who's done wrong against you".

Easy answers seem elusive and lazy analysis and reporting is clearly insufficient to completely explain what occurred at Ft Hood and why.

Having a conversation with someone doesn't make you a Terrorist.

The FBI was aware of his contacts and didn't find them indicative of someone who appeared to be growing radically anti-American, and from the content of his Presentation at Walker Reed this seems consistent - he was warning the Army of the potentially danger of disaffected Muslim Soldiers who were faced with a growing internal conflict with fighting against other Muslims, he had been dealing with those soldiers who were suffering Post Traumatic Stress and in some ways he himself was vulnerable to acquiring their stress through such repeated and close contact with the most difficult elements of their transition back to civilian life.

He didn't want to be deployed.

He had allegedly wanted to leave the Army although there is no evidence they he attempted to apply for "Consciencious Objector" status - he believed and stressed in his presentation that Muslim soldiers should have that option, in order to avoid "adverse effects" for the military itself.

More and more this appears to me more like a case of "Workplace violence" (similar to the Shooting Spree in 1995 at Ft Bragg which (corrected) killed 1 and wounded 18 people) than some type of "Sleeper Agent" or the work of a "Terrorist Sympathizer".

Earlier this year the Shooter, Sgt William Kruetzer, was sentenced to life in prison.

Kreutzer was convicted of one specification of premeditated murder, 18 specifications of attempted murder, one specification of violating a general order by transporting weapons on post, and one specification of larceny of government property (theft of government ammunition).

The charges stem from the Oct. 27, 1995, shooting at Towle Stadium of members of the 2nd Brigade of the 82nd Airborne Division as they were conducting morning physical training. Kreutzer hid in the tree line and picked off the Soldiers one by one until three Special Forces members were able to sneak up and tackle him.


In 1995 the World Trade Center had already been bombed, and the Murrah Federal Building had been destroyed. Was anyone asking then if Sgt Kreutzer was a Terrorist Sympathizer? I don't think so.

Is the race to turn Maj. Hasan into a "Terrorist" on flimsy insufficient evidece anything more than profiling? Calling his names and trying to jin up fear and paranoia of other "sleeper agents" in our military doesn't change the fact that he is still (an accused) Mass Murderer!

Isn't that bad enough?

We don't really know why - anymore than we know why Kreutzer did what he did, or other shooters such as the one at Virginia Tech who killed 32 People did what he did. We may never really know, but we really don't need to MAKE SHIT UP!

Vyan

(H/T to Randi Rhodes for the Links)

Update: I don't have a link for this yet, but Randi during her show also talked about the supposed "comparing a soldier who jumps on a grenade to a suicide bomber" post which has been mentioned. She read the post and what it actually said, assuming it wasn't some other Nidal Hasan who posted it was that the Koran does NOT condone suicide or suicide bombings. That in order to be considered a "Martyr" one has to fight your enemies, and kill them, until they kill you. A Suicide bombing is killing themselves, not being killed by their enemy. In contrast a soldier throwing himself on a grenade IS a Martyr, but not committing suicide. He also stated (at some point) that no form if Islam supported the use of suicide bombings that he could find - except al Qeada.

Update II Found it (maybe)

NidalHasan scribbled: There was a grenade thrown amongs a group of American soldiers. One of the soldiers, feeling that it was to late for everyone to flee jumped on the grave with the intention of saving his comrades. Indeed he saved them. He inentionally took his life (suicide) for a noble cause i.e. saving the lives of his soldier. To say that this soldier committed suicide is inappropriate. Its more appropriate to say he is a brave hero that sacrificed his life for a more noble cause. Scholars have paralled this to suicide bombers whose intention, by sacrificing their lives, is to help save Muslims by killing enemy soldiers. If one suicide bomber can kill 100 enemy soldiers because they were caught off guard that would be considered a strategic victory. Their intention is not to die because of some despair. The same can be said for the Kamikazees in Japan. They died (via crashing their planes into ships) to kill the enemies for the homeland. You can call them crazy i you want but their act was not one of suicide that is despised by Islam. So the scholars main point is that "IT SEEMS AS THOUGH YOUR INTENTION IS THE MAIN ISSUE" and Allah (SWT) knows best.


Ok, so actually what he said was that neither of them are committing "Suicide", one is attempting to save their comrades while the other attempting to kill their enemies - but neither's intent is simply to die. That doesn't make them equivalent or equal and he doesn't suggest that they are.

Update III ABC News is now adding gasoline to this bonfire by reporting that Al Awlaki is connected and inspired several other Terrorist Attacks including the attack on Fort Dix.

In addition to his contacts with Major Nidal Hasan, the radical American cleric, Anwar al Awlaki, served as an inspiration for men convicted in terror plots in Toronto and Fort Dix, New Jersey, according to government officials and court records reviewed by ABCNews.com.

Despite his ties to other plots, including the one against the Army post at Fort Dix, some 20 e-mails between Awlaki and Major Hasan were dismissed as "innocent" by a military investigator working on the FBI's Joint Terror Task Force in Washington, D.C.


IMO This is really bad reporting - (but after Path to 9-11 and how ABC Swiftboated Obama with Reverend Wright, I'm not surprised) - first of all they don't actually provide the details of what those links and "inspirations" where between Awlaki and these other individuals. His former mosque in Virginia is one of the largest on the East Coast - so it's likely quite a few people attended it. Yes, It's clear he's somewhat radical, seeing as he has praised Hasan's attack - but what's he got to do with Fort Dix? You could make exactly the same kind of "inspiration" arguements about Glenn Beck and the Holocaust Museum Shooter or Bill O'Reilly and Scott Roeder.

On this point- how he inspired them exactly - they fail to explain.

They also stick quotes around the FBI's assessment that the Hasan's contacts with him were "innocent" completely absent any evidence that they *weren't* innocent.

This is guilt by association, and although I'm not saying it's not possible there is some connection the FBI completely missed and fumbled - it's also not credible either, yet.

Vyan

Tuesday, November 10

Karl Rove is Completely Irony Proof

Believe it or not the other day Karl Rove tweeted this:

@KarlRove NBC finally gives some fair and balanced election night coverage. http://bit.ly/3bpKKr #TCOT #SGP


Being curious just what fresh pile of horse feces this could be - I clicked the link and found - TA DA - This!



This clip was briefly shown on Olbermann last night, but just how the audience immediately picks up on the ridiculousness of Fox News as Saturday NIght Live pretty much plays it straight - is very telling.

The one single solitary Democrat on the panel gets cut off even before he can say "Hello".

The smarmy smile on the "News" guys face as he states how this is clearly the Demise of Hope.

But regard the Rove Tweet: Let me get this straight, Karl Rove doesn't know when Karl Rove is being Punked?

I mean he either trying to do a double-ironic leap, or he doesn't quite get that this wasn't really NBC News.

I mean, is that like an amazing Hot Bowl of Fail Sauce or what?

With the New Tea Party-Party in Florida it seems as thoough Republicans are literally coming apart at the seems, and they choose to help promote their own public humiliation - not realizing that they're being ridiculed in the process?

If this keeps up there may be real HOPE for this nation yet.

Vyan

Leiberman = Anusface: Ft Hood Worst Terrorist Attack since 9-11?

In this clip from Fox News Sunday, Joe Lieberman (I-Liebermanville) proves yet again that he's a complete and total ANUSFACE as he starts off discussing the Ft Hood Shooting by saying "It's too soon to draw conclusions..." and then proceeds to draw the conclusion that this was the Worst Terrorist Attack Since 9-11! Self-ingratiating Prick Says Wha?



Leiberhole said:

"If the reports that we're receiving of various statements he made, acts he took, are valid, he had turned to Islamist extremism, and, therefore, if that is true, the murder of these 13 people was a terrorist act and, in fact,it was the most destructive terrorist act to be committed on american soil since 9/11,"


Look, Ft Hood was a tragedy - but it was not "Terrorism" simply because the shooter was Muslim, that's the most rank and despicable from of bigotry and profiling I've seen from a sitting U.S. Senator since - well - Ever!

Reports are that Major Hasan supposed shouted "Allahu Akbar" during the shooting - ok, well that's about is odd as a Christian saying "Praise Jesus" as he runs into a firefight. It's said that he wrote an internet post (although it hasn't been confirmed that it was the same Nidal Hasan) that compared suicide bombers to solders who throw themselves on a grenade to protect others - which frankly, isn't that big a stretch to me IMO both are partaking in a willful act of self-sacrifice to accomplish a larger goal. We may disagree with one goal and agree with the other, but the acts themselves are similar.

What also has been reported is that while stationed at Ft Hood Maj Hasan's car which display a bumper sticker which said "Allah is Love" was vandalized, the sticker removed and his paint job keyed.

An apartment complex manager says the man accused of opening fire at Fort Hood, Texas recently had a religious bumper sticker torn off his car.

The manager, John Thompson, says a fellow soldier allegedly keyed Maj. Nidal Malik Hasan's car and ripped up the bumper sticker. Thompson says the soldier had been to Iraq and was upset to learn Hasan was Muslim.

Thompson, who manages the Killeen, Texas complex where Hasan lives, says the bumper sticker read: "Allah is Love." In Arabic, Allah means God.

A report filed on Aug. 16 with Killeen police says Hasan's car had been scratched causing $1,000 worth of damage. The report says an Army employee had been arrested. It didn't provide more details about what happened


This shows that Hasan was the victim of a Hate Crime, but that doesn't mean that it was the catalyst for his actions this weekend. We know that he wanted out of the Army, that he was deathly afraid of being deployed and that he had received a deployment date.

His worst fear had been realized.

It doesn't have to be more complicated than his simply (forgive the phrase) Going POSTAL - with his greatest personal terror staring him in the face.

But no, according Joe LieberAss, although he was born in Virginia he was a "terrorist". Tell me, Joe - which terrorist group was he acting in support and concert with, Al Qaeda? Hamas? Hezbollah? The Sunni Insurgency? The Pashtun Tribes of Afghanistan? The Taliban? THE ASIAN DAWN!??

Terrorism is an act of violence in order to make a political point. What was his political agenda? What was he trying to say? If we don't know - then as a Terrorist all we have is Fail Sauce. It's not "terrorism" simply because the man was a devout muslim or had an arabic last name anymore than someone should assume this was "gang violence" influenced if the shooter had been black or "mafia related" if he'd been Italian. That's BIGOTRY!!

It's pathetically ignorant and naked racism.

I posted my initial comments to this on Twitter/Facebook and one response came back...

Well obviously it was terrorism. The shooter was a muslim. Anyone of the nation of Islam that commits a crime is directly linked to al queda.


The Nation of Islam? Really? That's Louis Farrakhan's African-American organization and they've never - REPEAT NEVER - been linked to any terrorist act or Al Qeada. The stupid is so think sometimes you can walk on it.

Also, not to trivialize the death of 13 people and injuries to 30+ more, but if this mass gun shooting was the "Worst Terrorist Attack" since 9-11 -- what the FRACK does that make the mass gun shooting at Virginia Tech in 2007 where 32 People were killed! - a picnic?

The first portion of Leiberman's statement is correct, it *is* premature to try any draw conclusions on the nature of this tragedy - and certainly it should be fully and thoroughly investigated, in the end he just might have terrorist ties (although I doubt it) that go far beyond shooting "Allahu Akbar" and giving copies of the Koran to his landlord- but it's not too premature to point out that Joe Lieberman is a shallow bigoted grandstanding Ass Clown.

Vyan