Sunday, January 23

Did anyone (in Media) actually Say Palin Inspired Loughner?

In the last week the Right-Wing hss been incensed - incensed - that poor sweet Saint Sarah was so unfairly and rudely accused of pretty much shooting Gabrielle Giffords in the head, or at the very least, inspiring the Jared Lee Loughner to launch his killing spree.

One wonders if Sarah Palin's name hadn't even come up after the Giffords shooting, would she have even bothered to make this video? But who was it that brought her name up?



Wow, since a crime starts and ends with the criminal who committed it - why are we still chasing Bin Laden exactly?

If you listened to Fox New Sunday, it seems that poor Saint Sarah just can't get a break.


Even before Palin’s interview with Sean Hannity tomorrow night, Fox News Sunday got a head start on Operation Save Sarah’s 2012, with a panel discussion on Fox News Sunday that was the height of pro-Palin propaganda. After the members of the panel concluded with amazement that the only reason Palin would release the video is that she has 2012 political ambitions, Britt Hume suggest that Palin has been unfairly attacked by the media.

Hume went as far as to suggest that the “attacks” on Palin were the most vicious that he has ever seen and he invoked Palin Derangement Syndrome, “What I would say about this, Chris, is that this is the dilemma with Sarah Palin. She has been subject to some of the most vicious and venomous media coverage, adverse media coverage of any public figure I have ever seen. And it amounts almost to what some would describe as a kind of derangement syndrome about her, this level of character assassination.”

Hume claimed that Palin was not to blame for the criticism, “However, to say all that, and to condemn it, even, does not mean that it hasn’t been effective, and does not mean that Sarah Palin has not been seriously damaged by it in the eyes of a broad cross-section of the public. And the Sarah Palin problem really is a problem that she has, largely, I think, through no fault of her own, become kind of radioactive. And it does mean that when she is in a situation like this, where she is the focus of national attention, she must be extremely careful about how she reacts to it.”


Poor Saint Sarah, it's not her fault that people shouted "TERRORIST" and "KILL HIM" after she carefully explained who Barack Obama "pals around with...". (Speaking of "Guilt by Association"...)

But I wonder, did Sherrif Dupnik actually blame Sarah Palin?

Dupnik: I think it's time as a country, we need to do a little soul searching. I think that the vitriolic rhetoric we hear day in and day out from people in the radio business, and some people in the tv business. And what we see on tv and how our children are being raised. It may be free speech, but it does not come without consequences. Arizona has become the Mecca of prejudice and bigotry.


Seems to me that Dupnik was talking more about local politics in Arizona, and their recent disagreements of things such as SB1070, not the Health Care Bill, Sarah Palin - who we mostly see on Facebook, not the TV - or Health Care.

Strange, it seems that he didn't even say Sarah's name. Not only that he didn't mention anyone's name, in fact he didn't say whether the vitriol was coming from the Right or the Left. He just said his opinion was it "Was Bad" - and exactly who disagrees with that?

Did Paul Krugman blame Sarah for this? No, just like Dupnik he didn't even mention her name.

When you heard the terrible news from Arizona, were you completely surprised? Or were you, at some level, expecting something like this atrocity to happen?

It’s true that the shooter in Arizona appears to have been mentally troubled. But that doesn’t mean that his act can or should be treated as an isolated event, having nothing to do with the national climate.

Where’s that toxic rhetoric coming from? Let’s not make a false pretense of balance: it’s coming, overwhelmingly, from the right. It’s hard to imagine a Democratic member of Congress urging constituents to be “armed and dangerous” without being ostracized; but Representative Michele Bachmann, who did just that, is a rising star in the G.O.P.

And there’s a huge contrast in the media. Listen to Rachel Maddow or Keith Olbermann, and you’ll hear a lot of caustic remarks and mockery aimed at Republicans. But you won’t hear jokes about shooting government officials or beheading a journalist at The Washington Post. Listen to Glenn Beck or Bill O’Reilly, and you will.


So if Dupnik didn't blame Sarah (or the Right) and Krugman didn't blame Sarah - how did she get brought into this? Fox News brought her into it, by trying to defend and excuse her cross hairs map.






Charlie Rangle: All of us are familiar with Palin targeting people with cross hairs, none of us can say that that had anything to do with this attempted asssasination, but it's clear things like that doesn't help.


It's not Saint Sarah's fault Dr Laura thinks saying "Nigger" 15 times to a Black woman is ok - she just said "Reload" (more "Niggers"?)

So did NBC News blame Palin? Not anymore than they blamed Glenn Beck for fantasizing about Killing Michael Moore and Nancy Pelosi.



NBC mentioned the map, but did they single Saint Sarah out? Hardly.

Not, just bringing the map up didn't get under Beck's collar.



Beck: The Problem is that everybody is playing politics with a national tragedy. Paul Krugman says it's long past time took a stand against Hate Mongers. I don't need to tell you MSNBC said. Hink: They think Fox pulled the trigger. Media Matters wants us to be told what to say on or off the air. I don't use it, on or off the air so I guess I'm in compliance.

I would stand with Barack Obama and even Van Jones if they would stand against Politicing Violence?


Yeah, but would you stand with them if they stand against violence itself?

Did Keith Blame Sarah Palin? Not directly.



Olbermann: If Sarah Palin - whose website put and today scrubbed bulls eye targets on 20 representatives including Gabby Giffords - does not repudiate her own part, however tangential, in amplifying violence and violent imagery in American politics, she must be dismissed from politics. She must be repudiated by the members of her own party, and they refuse to do so then each of them be judged to have silently supported this tactic that today proved so awfully for telling.


Keith went on to talk about an event with Jesse Kelly, who campaigned against Gabrielle Giffords, where he offered supporters to "Fire a Gun with Kelly". He talked about Sharon Angle and her "Second Amendment Remedies", and Congressman Alan West who said they should make his opponent "Afraid to come out his own home", and Tea Party Leaders who advance the idea of "Watering the Trea of Liberty with Blood", and Glenn Beck ("I could kill Michael Moore") and Bill O'Reilly ("Tiller the Killer").

If all of these are not responsible for Tucson, they are now be responsible for doing every thing they can to to make sure Tucson does not happen again. And if those of considered on the Left, do not do all we can to eliminate all our own suggestions of violence, now matter how mild they might have been, now matter how inadvertent, we deserve repudiation...

Even if Jared Lee Loughner was shooting into a political crowd simply to shoot into a political crowd, we haved for years been building up to a moment Just like This


Keith mention Sarah, but he certainly didn't singled her out at all - far from it - he include himself in the Repudiation List for an inadvertent comment that might have sounded like a threat against Hillary Clinton.

The argument made by all these people, from Dupnik to Krugman to Olbermann, none of them said "Sarah did this" but they did say the "climate" might have been a factor. And that's something that clinical psychologist happen to agree with.

Dr. Swartz cautioned that there's still much we don't know about Loughner or more generally about the impact of the political climate on the mentally ill. But he asserted that asking how our politics might have impacted Loughner's behavior was an entirely natural line of questioning.

"We know the manifestation of mental illness is affected by cultural factors," Dr. Swartz said. "One's cultural context does effect people's thinking and particularly their delusions. It gives some content and shape to their delusions. While we don't know whether there was a specific relationship between the political climate that he was exposed to and his thinking, it's a reasonable line of inquiry to explore."


Even if Dr. Swartz is correct - the argument isn't that Sarah Palin Alone - may have acted a some kind of "trigger" for Loughner, rather that the numerous incidents of violence and threats that were already in progress might have helped push an already unstable person even further over the edge. Even if Loughner is crazy as a Green Jaybird, this is still something work considering and investigating.

So why's Sarah feeling so butt hurt? Maybe it simply goes back to what Gabrielle Gifford's herself first said about the Cross Hairs Map ten months ago.



Giffords: The rhetoric is incredibly heated, the calls, the emails, the slurs.

People need to realize that the rhetoric and firing people up, even things for example we're on Sarah Palin's targeted list the way she has it depicted has the cross hairs of a gun over our district. when people do that, they've got to realize there's consequences to that action.


It's not Saint Sarah's fault that silly Giffords got her Surveyor, Bulls Eye, Reload Sights mixed up with Sniper Sights. Common mistake.

The consequences Giffords was talking about was the shooting out of her office windows back in March, not the shooting at the Safeway because she hasn't been able to speak since that shooting.

Even if this disgusting Youtube video of death threats against Palin - which has inflamed the right - No One Suggests that she SENT Loughner to shoot Giffords.



So Sarah Palin is going to go on Sean Hannity tonight to complain about the Left attacking her and blaming her - but the fact is that actually didn't happen. It was Fox News who distorted everyones comments, shifting what Sherrif Dupnik said about "people on TV" to "people on the Right" when he didn't say that - shifting what Keith said about people taking responsibility - including himself - to "Fox pulled the Trigger" and shifting criticism of Glenn Beck himself to "Sarah Made Loughner do it" - even when Sarah wasn't even mentioned by people on the Left or if they did they all said "none of us can say" that Sarah's target map had anything to do with it. They only said that it was a bad idea - a bad idea that DID lead to violence.

Poor Saint Sarah, it's not her fault that 11 out of 20 of the Representatives Targeted either received Death Threats or had their offices and homes attacked.

Vic Snyder (retired, Arkansas-2) received a death threat in the mail in March 2010.

Ann Kirkpatrick (Arizona-1) - her office was attacked in March 2010.

Harry Mitchell (Arizona-5) received several death threats in March 2010.

Betsy Markey (Colorado-4) received several death threats in March 2010.

Suzanne Kosmas (Florida-24) was threatened in March 2010.

Baron Hill (Indiana-9) received several telephone threats in March 2010.

Earl Pomeroy (North Dakota-AL) was threatened in March 2010.

John Boccieri (Ohio-16) received numerous telephone death threats in March 2010.

Kathy Dahlkemper (Pennsylvania-3) was threatened by mail in March 2010.

Tom Perriello (Virginia-5) was threatened in March 2010, including the infamous incident when the gas line was cut at his brother's house; the attacker erroneously thought it was Rep Perriello's house.

Gabrielle Giffords (D-Arizona) had the front window of her office shot out in March.


Yeah, but don't blame Saint Sarah - she had nothing to do with it.

Vyan

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