Sarah Palin: Going Birther!

Sarah - the Self-Absorbed Quitterific Serial Fact-Mangler - Palin In response to questions and issues which very briefly surrounded the birth of her own son Trig, has now decided that that experience (which she decries as totally unfair - and it WAS) now believes it gives her license to question the birth of the 44th President of the United States.

Douche-Nozzle Much?



I hate to tear everyone away from the latest Tiger Woods Ho-Swinging News, but this just in... Four-Time College Quitter, Ex-Mayor, Energy Commission Quitter, Governor Quitter, Book Signing Quitter and Turkey Trot Quitter Sarah Palin is a Nutbag (Enabler).

A Few Points as I listen to the Interview for the first time:

Palin blasts Obama for not being enthusiastic about going over and "Killing those Terrorists" and not having a "Steel Spine" like Reagan -- Y'mean before or after Beiruit!

Palin solution to the Economy Problems - Tax Cuts Period. (This besides the fact that nearly 60% of the Stimulus WAS Tax Cuts - "for the Job creators" - Oy vey!)

She also signs on with the Tea Parties in blasting the Bail Out - even though She Supported the Bail Out when Bush put it through... not to mention her signing on fully with the "Climate Change Conspiracy Theory" - just to completely round-out her full on craziness.

The key portions comes up about 8 mins in...

From Thinkprogress:

Palin: Voters have every right to ask candidates for information if they so choose. I’ve pointed out that it was seemingly fair game during the 2008 election for many on the left to badger my doctor and lawyer for proof that Trig is in fact my child. Conspiracy-minded reporters and voters had a right to ask... which they have repeatedly. But at no point – not during the campaign, and not during recent interviews – have I asked the president to produce his birth certificate or suggested that he was not born in the United States.

HEY SARAH it's not a "Legitimate Question" because the Birth Certificate is RIGHT HERE!



Now, Logically this should END THE MATTER - unfortunately like many Dimbulb conspiracies - It doesn't.

I've been over this in exhaustive detail before - so here's a quick refresher because when we don't walk people through it all, they claim we're HIDING something... so for those who question the above here's more. (I'm quoting ME, so I gave myself permission)

Showing the Folds.


Signature on the Back


The Raised Seal


Close Up of City of Birth


Unredacted Certification Number


Birth Announcement from Local Honolulu Paper filed by Obama's Grand Parents

Now, the funny thing about this, and the thing that keeps the Birthers coming back even when you do display all the above - as Matthews, Cenk and Fact Check do - is the fact this this document really isn't Obama's Birth Certificate.

Hey, stop throwing rocks... I'm serious.

No, I'm not supporting a Conspiracy Theory on Dkos - that would be a TOS violation, I'm just saying. as Yoda would - There is Another.

This document is Obama's "Certification of Live Birth", it is essentially the "Short Form" of his certificate and most states including Hawaii have another longer form which includes details such as Birth Weight, possibly even a footprint and such to help confirm the identity of the child. (Y'know the stuff Identity Theft is made of...)

Here's what Fact Check Says about it.

The document is a "certification of birth," also known as a short-form birth certificate. The long form is drawn up by the hospital and includes additional information such as birth weight and parents' hometowns. The short form is printed by the state and draws from a database with fewer details. The Hawaii Department of Health's birth record request form does not give the option to request a photocopy of your long-form birth certificate, but their short form has enough information to be acceptable to the State Department. We tried to ask the Hawaii DOH why they only offer the short form, among other questions, but they have not given a response.

What all these Birther as clamoring for - Is the Long Form, not this one.

They argue, that they've found examples of foreign citizens who've managed to forge the short form and therefore the ability to commit such a forgery automatically de-legitimizes the form supplied by Obama. It's sort of saying that simply because someone can counterfeit a $20 Bill, every other $20 is therefore invalid.

Yeah, Right - Ok....

Neo-Birthers like Lou Dobbs claim they don't question his citizenship but that they just want to see Obama's "Long Form" - and continue to question why he doesn't show it. Let me make this simple:

A) THE LONG FORM IS NOT THE OFFICIAL FORM: It is not certified and signed by the State and recognized as Official and binding by State Authorities or the Government. You can't get a Drivers License or a Passport with the Long Form - Yet, somehow Obama has both - hmmmm...

b) HAWAII DOESN'T OFFER COPIES OF THE LONG FORM: Go back and re-read what Fact Check Found - "The Hawaii Department of Health's birth record request form does not give the option to request a photocopy of your long-form birth certificate" - so essentially they're asking for something EVEN OBAMA CAN'T GET from the State of Hawaii. A Perfect Unprovable Conspiracy: Sort of like claiming an Evil Robot from the Future has been sent to Kill Sarah Connor - only it's not the Future Yet...

c) BUT SHOULD HE STILL HAVE HIS OWN ORIGINAL COPY?: Logic dictates that his Mother would have had that, and for those of you who are completely insensitive and need this explained to you - Obama Mother DIED When he was an adolescent and his father was already dead - He's an ORPHAN YOU DOPES - so it's probably lost. All he can do is request an official copy from that state - and That's Exactly What He Did.

Lastly I have few questions for the Birthers, since they like to ask them, maybe they can answer just a couple teeny, tiny questions:

How exactly did a 17 year-old 9-month pregnant girl fly from Hawaii to Kenya, then fly back with a Newborn Baby Boy and NOBODY FRACKING NOTICED?

What did she travel steerage?

Who paid for this trip?

Did he use a passport or just a kind word and a flirty wink to cross all those borders without leaving a trace?

Is the Lock Ness Monster Real?

How Many Spaceships are they hiding at Area 51?

Why does Bigfoot's Skin always Sag around the Middle?

Who Shot J.R.?

How's OJ Gonna find the Real Killers from Prison?

And finally - WHY THE FUCK WOULD ANYONE TRAVEL 15,000 MILES ROUND TRIP Pregnant?

The insanity of it all just gets worse and worse the more you think about it.

Here's what Media Matters Has to say about it:

Lying: President Obama's birthplace and nationality have been established beyond any credible doubt -- he was born in Hawaii, in 1961, and is and always has been an American citizen. It is not a "fair question" to suggest otherwise.

Hypocrisy: What little credibility her attacks on the media had were based largely on the poor treatment she received from isolated quarters of the blogosphere regarding the birth of her son. For her to continue to complain about that while simultaneously questioning the president's birth, and suggesting that she would be justified in doing so, is hypocritical and disgusting beyond anything I thought Palin capable of. And let's not forget that when Palin's family first became an issue in the press shortly after McCain tapped her, Obama came to her defense: "I think people's families are off-limits, and people's children are especially off-limits. This shouldn't be part of our politics. It has no relevance to Gov. Palin's performance as governor or her potential performance as a vice president."

Political stupidity: If Palin does, indeed, have political ambitions, then she's doing everything she possibly can to scuttle them by embracing Birtherism. There's a reason that national-level elected Republicans don't (for the most part) wade into the Birther swamp -- because the issue is so radioactively crazy that it would be political suicide to do so. If news reports are to be believed, Lou Dobbs was dropped by CNN because he indulged his Birther curiosities. It was hardly the first crazy thing Dobbs did while at CNN, but it was that special kind of crazy that made CNN say "enough." In short, anyone who has the Birther stain is not going to be a success in the political mainstream

Yeah, what they said...

Vyan

Flip-Flop of Decade: McCain was FOR $1.3T in Medicare Cuts, before he was Against $400B in Savings!

As was noted on Keith Last Night Senator (and would've been President - if not for those darn meddling kids on Wall Street) John McCain has been railing heavily against the "unspecified cuts" proposed in the current Senate Health Care Bill.



Yes, we now have become completely unaware of the cuts we're previously fully aware of - especially the cuts proposed by Senator John McCain to the tune of $1.3 Trillion way - way back in - 2008!

John McCain Today - Pounding the Dead "Rationing" Horse:

Madame President, simply put, this motion to commit would be a requirement that we eliminate the half a trillion dollars in Medicare cuts that is envisioned by this bill. A half a trillion dollars in cuts that are unspecified as to how, and a half a trillion dollars in cuts that would directly impact the health care of citizens in this country. ... All of these are cuts in the obligations that we have assumed and are the rightful benefits that people have earned. ... I will eagerly look forward to hearing from the authors of this legislation as to how they can possibly achieve a half a trillion dollars in cuts without impacting existing Medicare programs negatively and eventually lead to rationing of health care in this country. That is what this motion is all about. This motion is to eliminate those unwarranted cuts.

John McCain Yesterday (From the October 6, 2008 Wall Street Journal)

John McCain would pay for his health plan with major reductions to Medicare and Medicaid, a top aide said, in a move that independent analysts estimate could result in cuts of $1.3 trillion over 10 years to the government programs.

The Republican presidential nominee has said little about the proposed cuts, but they are needed to keep his health-care plan "budget neutral," as he has promised. The McCain campaign hasn't given a specific figure for the cuts, but didn't dispute the analysts' estimate.

Mr. Holtz-Eakin said the Medicare and Medicaid changes would improve the programs and eliminate fraud, but he didn't detail where the cuts would come from. "It's about giving them the benefit package that has been promised to them by law at lower cost," he said.

McCain's proposed Medicare Cuts weren't intended as Savings to help maintain the solvency of the program, his were intended to pay for - wait for it- Tax Credits worth $2,500 per person or $5,000 per family to help them buy health insurance "on the open market". At the same time the McCain plan was to remove the Tax exemption which currently applies to all Employer Based Benefits Packages - so while McCain would've been handing Paul Half-A-Loaf in the back alley, he's also Mugging Peter around the Corner.

Nevermind the fact that Health Care Currently costs more than $6,000 on the open market for an individual and $12,000 for a family. Thanks for next to nothing Papa John - where'd you learn to balance a checkbook on the nose of your Wife's private Jet?

Let's also recall that during the 90's, the Gingrich Republican Congress also attempted to ramrod through massive Medicare Cuts - not just to the amounts being paid, but actual reductions in service - and that the only way then-President Clinton was able to stop them was to Shut the Entire Government Down - TWICE.

Via Thinkprogress:

In 1997, McCain (along with many Democrats) voted for a series of Medicare cuts as part of the Balanced Budget Act of 1997. That act decreased Medicare spending by 12.7% over 10 years and instituted the kind of payment updates that the Senate bill is now recommending. In 1995, moreover, Republicans sought to cut 14% from projected Medicare spending over seven years and force millions of elderly recipients into managed health care programs or HMOs. As Speaker of the House Newt Gingrich admitted, “We don’t want to get rid of it in round one because we don’t think it’s politically smart,” he said. “But we believe that it’s going to wither on the vine because we think [seniors] are going to leave it voluntarily.”

They absolutely tried to KILL Medicare, and now they claim to be it's "Savior"? Yeah, right - sell me another bridge why don'tcha this one's all rusty from all the piss you keep telling me is RAIN!

It's been some time since we paid attention to what Sarah Palin's favorite former Uber-Patriotic Arm Decoration/Bling Bling has been up to - but in the midst of this critical debate on Heath Care I think it's time we got our PUSH BACK ON, and hard.

Vyan