Thursday, October 21

Right Wigs out over Williams Firing

As Jed Lewison/s FB Diary points out, Palin and Huckabee (both Fox Employees) want NPR's Federal Funding Cut because they fired Juan Williams for saying "Muslims Scare Me".

But the fact is, that's just the tip of the iceberg when it comes to the big right wing flip out to defend the supposed "Free Speech" of a Faux Liberal.

Check out this from Glenn Beck...



Juan Williams was put up against the wall, and NPR shot him.




Here's more...where Beck blames all of this on, you guessed it, George Soros and the Tides Foundation.


Beck: Your media is being taken over by the ultimate special interests groups, the Tides Foundation and George Soros. They want you to strike out, they need you to strike out. Look to Europe, that is what they're trying to create here. Juan Williams, in a completely unrelated story was on Bill O'Reilly, he was talking about political correctness.

- Plays Williams Clip -

Beck: He was fired yesterday, completely unrelated to George Soros - and the money he gave just yesterady. I don't agree with Juan Williams, but voices are being silenced by the Jack Booted Thugs of the Left

We can dismiss Beck as being a nutball of course, and he has no proof that Soros donation had anything to with Williams Firing (or else why wouldn't he just Buy out Fox) but you also have the Greek chorus of Brietbart bloggers who seem to think they've found a double standard in NPR complaining that no one was fired when someone made this comment on the air in 2007.

A taxpaying-funded organization fired someone over their free speech? No! Shocker!...NPR had no problem with statements like this on its airwaves:

I stick very rigorously to the evidence. You had the Nazis unloaded coffins at night. We saw coffins being unloaded at night. They talked about enhanced interrogation, meaning torture. Karl Rove talked about enhanced interrogation, meaning torture. They said, you know, we’ve got to invade Czechoslovakia, because it’s a staging ground for terrorists. We said we had to invade Iraq, a country we’re not at war with, because they’re torturing their ethnic minorities, it’s a staging ground for terrorists, and they hate our freedoms. I don’t need to draw an analogy. The analogies are there

There are three problems with this 1) Those comments weren't made by someone who worked for NPR, they were made by a guest who than CAN'T fire and 2) Since when do people on Breitbart's side of the argument think that comparing a President to Hitler and the Nazi's is Beyond the Pale since their Tea Party buddies do it all the time and 3) The analogy is actually Correct contrasting torture and illegal invasions based on false reasons. Bush did authorize torture and the reasons for invading Iraq were false.

I didn't see this kind of outrage and protection of free speech when Helen Thomas was fired for criticizing Jews for invading and occupying Palestine - did anyone else? I see that they posted Video of Thomas's comments on Breitbart TV and linked to their source for that video who stated:

Helen Thomas is as fair and open minded as she is good looking. The most Senior of White-House Correspondents has given up being a real reporter and instead spends her time spewing venom toward America's war on Terror and/or anything Israel does. For example during the 2008/09 Israeli battle with Hamas in Gaza, Thomas was interviewed by NPR and compared the IDF action to Nazi Germany

I mean, you can’t remain neutral. I remember the rabbi who spoke at the Martin Luther King march on Washington. Heschel had a cameo appearance, and he said, “The greatest sin of all in the Nazi era was silence.” When you remain silent to the suffering and the incredible aggression against a people, then you are culpable.

There are some people who believe that any criticism of Israel is Anti-Semitism. That belief is as ignorant as Anti-Semitism itself. There is however, a great deal of crossover between hatred of Israel and Hatred of the Jews. To find out what people really mean you need to examine the words they use.

Helen Thomas' comparing of the IDF to Nazi Germany is nothing but an attempt to water-down the horror of the Holocaust, and to dehumanize Israel. And her advice to the Jews to get the hell out of Palestine, and go back to Poland and Germany is nothing short of anti-Semitism. If Thomas' comments were directed toward any other group but the Jews, she would have been out of work a very long time ago. Maybe it’s time for Helen’s bosses to retire her to the “The Home For Old Crazy Anti-Semites.

So Juan Williams was taken out and SHOT, by the "Jack Booted Left Wing Thugs" for saying "Muslims scare him" - but Helen Thomas would have been fired long ago if she had said "Go Back Home" to any other group but Jews in Israel? Hmm, imagine if she said "Go Back Home" to Latino illegal immigrants in Arizona - the way that Jan Brewer, Sharron Angle and David Vitter have done - how would that have worked out?

(h/t comments) There was no outrage when Thomas was fired, or when CNN fired Octavia Nasr and Rick Sanchez. Nothing Nada. On the contrary, when Dr. Laura went on her N-Word Rant, Sarah Palin Defended her. Palin also defended Franklin Graham who said "Obama has a Muslim Seed" and that "Islam is evil and wicked", and she defended Rush Limbaugh when he called Democrats "Retarded" arguing that they were Retarded, but that Rahm Emmanuel should have been Fired as White House Chief of Staff for essentially saying some of their ideas were retarded!

Consistency is not her strong suit, unless it's to be consistently anti-minority and anti-Democrat. Let's recap our list of rude/bigoted non-PC statements and the RIght-Wing Reaction to them.

Fire Thomas? Yes.
Fire Nasr? Yes.
Fire Kos (for pissing off Scarborough)? Damn, straight.
Fire Sanchez (who criticized Fox constantly)? Hell Yes.
Fire Emmanuael? Oh, You Betcha!
Fire Graham (from National Prayer Breakfast)? No!
Fire Dr. Laura? Nope.
Fire Williams? Never, and take Federal retaliation on NPR for doing anyway.

Yeah, that about sums it.

But Palin, Huckabee, Beck, Brietbart and his acolytes aren't the only ones upset about this - there's also the entire crew of Morning Joe:



Scarborough defended Williams, saying “he was setting it up to say, ‘Listen I understand people get nervous, sometimes I get nervous, but we’ve got to move past that. We can’t paint an entire faith with this.’”

That's not what was Juan was saying - he wasn't saying "you can't over-generalize", he was saying that Bill Wasn't Over-generalizing, he was saying that Bill Was RIGHT and the girls on the The View were wrong.

There wasn't any real disagreement between Williams and O'Reilly.

SCARBOROUGH: This is disgraceful. NPR needs to hire Juan Williams back. People get nervous, sometimes I get nervous.

PAT BUCHANAN: That is preposterous! ... It is not irrational to be nervous after 9/11 if you see some conspicuous Muslim fellas get in the first class section of a plane as I have!

JOE SCARBOROUGH: That is the natural reaction of a lot of Americans, it's something we need to talk about. This is a prejudice we have as a country, it's something we need to more past and that's what Juan Williams was trying to say.

MIKA BRZEZINSKI: Something is wrong with what we do if we get fired for having a peaceful voice.

GUEST: This is because people in their underwear on their blogs and start writing..."I'm not going to listen to you station anymore"

SCARBOROUGH: And that's exactly what happened, left wing blogs came after NPR.

Left wing blogs? Really? I scan a lot of left wing blogs and frankly I didn't see anything about this until after Williams was fired. I knew about his commment, but I for one didn't see some uprising against NPR over it - Williams has been saying stuff like this forever, and NO, he wasn't about to argue that "We need to get past it, not a bit". This is how Williams responded to the entire "M-Fing Ice Tea" issue - and back then he also rationalized fear of Black people.



O'Reilly: My grandmother was afraid of black and you were harder on her than I was.

Williams: The discussion we had were that too often the people see all these negative images of black people on TV. And I defended your grandmother (For that).

So, you have to understand that Williams has previously argued that irrational fear of minority groups are justified because of THEIR behavior, not because the people harboring the fear are biased or bigoted. In this instance Williams blamed Rap Music for White people thinking negatively of Blacks, and fearing them. Yeah, it's all the fault of Ludacris and Little Kim - yet somehow I don't see these same kinds of arguments being made about Italians because of The Sopranos, The Situation and Snooki!

Coincidence? Hmm.

So with that in mind, let's really go over what Williams was really fired for because honestly most people aren't really even getting half the story straight. First here's the text of Bill O'Reilly's talking points memo where he yet again defends his statement on the View and tries to clean them up after the fact.

And in fairness I will go through the entire thing... with a few rebutalls before getting to what Williams said in solidarity with O'Reilly.

O’REILLY: Hi. I’m Bill O’Reilly. Thanks for watching us tonight.

The Muslim dilemma — that is the subject of this evening’s talking points memo. So, in case you just got back from Easter Island, I, your humble correspondent, am causing trouble once again.

Today on “The View,” the ladies addressed the shootout I had with them last Thursday when I said that building a mosque near Ground Zero is inappropriate because Muslims killed us there. That caused Whoopi Goldberg and Joy Behar to walk off the set.

Of course, what I said is absolutely true, but is insensitive to some. In a perfect world, you always say Muslim terrorists killed us, but at this point, I
thought that was common knowledge.
I guess I was wrong.

Actually Bill, you just said "Muslims" - not "Muslim Terrorists", and right there is the problem. The only way this links back to Park 51 is if you assume that they too at Park 51 are Terrorists, which your network has put quite a bit of work into arguing.

Anyway, the heated controversy continues and goes far beyond me and “The View” ladies. It has entered the fabric of America.

Barbara Walters said something interesting today. She said that the nation is very angry. Therefore, commentators must watch the rhetoric. OK.

But my question to Ms. Walters is this: Why is America so angry?

There are a number of answers to that question. One of them is that folks are fed up with politically correct nonsense. There is no question there is a Muslim problem in the world and if “The View” ladies will not acknowledge that, that’s their problem, because most Americans well understand the danger coming out of the Muslim world.

So Bill wasn't just talking about "Muslim Terrorists" at all, he was talking about the "Muslm World" being the danger. But who should be upset by that other than about 1 Billion Muslims?

America is not a war with the "Muslim World" because there is no singular monolithic MUSLIM WORLD. Just as there is diversity in America, just as there is diversity in Christianity between difference subsets of faith (Protestant, Catholic, Mormon) there are subsets of Islams (Sunni, Shia, Sufi) and subsets of people without those groupings with their own beliefs and agendas. Not all of the Muslim world hates America for our support of Israel. Not all of the Muslim worlds supports al Qeada, or Hezbollah or Hamas or Chechnya separatists. In the last decade the highest casualty count has been from Muslims killing other Muslims, so O'Reilly entire Premise is completely bogus once you break it down to it's core. Saying we are at War with the Muslim World is as silly as saying they are at War with the Western World, rather than look at the specific political grievances which fan the flames of this conflict.

Bill has yet to realize what al Qeada and the Taliban truly are: They're the Islamic Klan!

Ms. Walters went on to say that my statement about the Japanese attacking the USA in World War II is not a valid comparison.

(BEGIN VIDEO CLIP)

WALTERS: I think that what Bill O’Reilly said was totally wrong. I also feel that on his program when he compared it to Germany and Japan, which he did, and said, well, you wouldn’t have been built monuments — countries, they were not religion.

(END VIDEO CLIP)

Park 51 is not a "Monument" to any kind of Islamic Victory over the west, it is a YMCA. It has a 9-11 Memorial inside it, and prayer spaces for Jews, Christians and people of all faiths beyond Islam. But then Bill wouldn't know that.

O’REILLY: With all due respect to Barbara Walters, who has handled herself with dignity in this controversy, she is misguided.

American forces had to remove the Taliban government in Afghanistan because it supported the al Qaeda killers. The U.S. and many other countries are now desperately trying to prevent Iran from building a nuclear bomb because most everyone understands some crazy jihadists may use that bomb to ignite a holocaust. Right now the countries of Russia, China, the Philippines, many nations in Africa and Thailand are all fighting Muslim insurrections.

Those countries are fighting terrorist, but just like his pal Kilmeade (who just recently had to grovel and apologize to keep his job) on Fox and Friends, O'Reilly seems to think "All Terrorists are Muslim". They are not.

Bill wants to play both sides of the "Distinction" issue here. He want to leave it out when he knows he's talking to people who aren't going to assume the best about what's he means - and then WHINE when he's failed to make himself clear that they dared to assume the worst. Problem for him is, the worst assumption isn't entirely wrong.

The Muslim threat to the world is not isolated. It’s huge! It involves nations and millions of people.

Yet, the left in America will not face that fact.

“Talking Points” has given President Obama has given a pass on his soft rhetoric towards the Muslim world, because he needs to get nations like Pakistan to cooperate with us. The president can’t afford tough rhetoric like the kind I’m giving you tonight. That is perfectly understandable.

In Germany, however, Chancellor Angela Merkel is getting tough. She told the world that attempts to build multi-cultural society in her country have, quote, “utterly failed.” Ms. Merkel has enormous problem with 5 million Muslims who are not assimilating into German society.

And here is where the true crux of the issue appears - assimilation.

In France, the parliament there has outlawed burqas after that country endured rioting in Muslim areas that the police could not control.

Here in the USA, we are lucky. The vast majority of American Muslims are good citizens and deplore the extreme actions in the Muslim world. But they know there is a clash of civilizations in play.

Nice of Bill to notice, but I don't think he means it. If he did he'd be reaching out to Imam Rauf and would support the efforts of the Park 51 project, not demonizing it as some kind of "Victory Mosque".

Despite all that, Ms. Goldberg was deeply offended by my statement about 9/11. Here’s what she said this morning.

(BEGIN VIDEO CLIP)

GOLDBERG: When you say Muslims are responsible for 9/11, does that mean Muhammad Ali? Because Muhammad Ali is a Muslim. Does that mean Kareem Abdul-Jabbar?

To me, you need to be distinct when you say things like this because this is a volatile time. You cannot just throw stuff around like that in my opinion.

(END VIDEO CLIP)

O’REILLY: Now, that statement is worth addressing. No sane individual thinks Muhammad Ali or Kareem Abdul-Jabbar is responsible for 9/11.

But the reality is that most Americans are uneasy with the Muslim world in general because moderate Muslims have not stepped up in a visible way to help combat the jihadists.

Except y'know in Iraq with the Sunni Awakening and in Afghanistan with the formation of the Afghan Army and Police. Were you expecting a parade?

Look at all the problems we’re having with Pakistan. We’ve sent that country billions of dollars hoping to motivate them to fight the Taliban and al Qaeda.

If Whoopi Goldberg doesn’t think there’s a Muslim problem, she ought to ask President Obama about it.

I'm not thinking he's going to tell her what you think he would.

The cold truth is that in the world today, jihad, aided and abetted by some Muslim nations, is the biggest threat on the planet. If Iran gets a nuclear weapon, Israel and other countries are in grave danger.

So, I have had enough of the political correct nonsense and I condemn the far-left fanatics who label people with whom they disagree “bigots.” That’s what Joy Behar did again today, which is simply stunning because as Laura Ingraham pointed out last Friday, Ms. Behar’s anti- Christian analysis has been off the charts.

And then there is Rosie O’Donnell who used to host “The View.” Here’s what she said.

(BEGIN AUDIO CLIP)

ROSIE O’DONNELL, ACTRESS: Bill O’Reilly, you know, what does he do besides incite kind of hatred? What does he do besides that?

JANETTE BARBER, EXECUTIVE PRODUCER: To stand there and say Muslims killed us, I hope you didn’t take that wrong. I didn’t mean anything bad about them. It’s like I hate it when they lie within the same sentence, at least take a break before you lie.

O’DONNELL: But it’s like that’s what Bill O’Reilly does. Why would you book him?

(END AUDIO CLIP)

O’REILLY: Now, Ms. O’Donnell’s analysis reminded me of this –

(BEGIN VIDEO CLIP)

O’DONNELL: Radical Christianity is just as threatening as radical Islam in a country like America where we have a separation of church and state. We’re a democracy.

(END VIDEO CLIP)

O’REILLY: Interesting. Nobody walked off the set of “The View” when Rosie O’Donnell said that. Did they?

They didn't because she's absolutely correct. Radical American Christians are as much of a threat to this nation - from Scott Reoder and the Army of God Terrorist Network to the Militia Movements and dozens of so-called "Lone Gunmen" who've threatened and attacked Senators (remember the Anthrax attack on Congress?), the Holocaust Museum Shooting, the Knoxville Tennessee Liberal Shooting to the Hutaree Militia and the attempted attack on the Tides Foundation.

As “Talking Points” stated on Friday, there is a reason behind the madness. Many in the Muslim world despise the United States because we are Israel’s biggest supporter. Any of the liberal precincts believe our support for Israel is wrong and that we have ignited Muslim anger. It is our fault that some Muslims hate us.

People like Helen Thomas?

I don’t think the ladies on “The View” see it that way. But certainly, the far-left has held that opinion for quite some time.

Finally, wherever I went this weekend, people were high-fiving me. It was amazing. People yelling out windows, “O’Reilly, keep going,” that kind of stuff.

Are all these people bigots? Do they all hate Kareem Abdul-Jabbar?

They would if he got "uppity" - the way they seem to hate our "Muslim" President.


That’s just nuts. This has nothing to do with theology and everything to do with politics. Americans are simply fed up with politicians and media people denying the obvious. There is a dangerous problem in the Muslim world and once again, I call for all peace-loving Muslims to join the United States and other conscientious nations to fight the jihadists to defeat radical Islam. And that’s the memo.

In a moment, Juan and Mary Katharine will tell me where I’m going wrong on all of this.

So O'Reilly thinks that "Muslims Killed us on 9/11" is a credible way to get "Peace-loving Muslims" to rally to our cause against radical jihadists? All he had to say is "radical jihadists killed us" and none of this would have been a problem, except the he makes clear here - the issue is with the "Muslim World", it's with entire nations, not just jihadists.

After all that setup came Williams and another guest.



So, where am I going wrong there, Juan.

JUAN WILLIAMS, FOX NEWS POLITICAL ANALYST: Well, actually, I hate to say this to you because I don’t want to get your ego going. But I think you’re right. I think, look, political correctness can lead to some kind of paralysis where you don’t address reality.

I mean, look, Bill, I’m not a bigot. You know the kind of books I’ve written about the civil rights movement in this country. But when I get on the plane, I got to tell you, if I see people who are in Muslim garb and I think, you know, they are identifying themselves first and foremost as Muslims, I get worried. I get nervous.

This is the key statement. But note what he really said "They are identifying themselves first and foremost as Muslims" - therefore Williams is Justified in being afraid. They don't have freedom of religion? Apparently in Williams world, they don't. See they should have been assimilating and not act TOO MUSLIM in public, scaring all the Americans and what not.

Just like Little Kim scares little old white ladies.

It's not like any actual terrorist would go out of his way to blend in so as not to attract attention, and the biggest badge that someone isn't a terrorist is if their walking around in tradition Islamic garb. Was the Shoe-bomber wearing a Turbin? No! Was the attempted Time-Square Bomber walking around with Arabian Robes? Fuck NO! These Ala Baba images in these peoples heads are just pathetic and a cheap excuse for RACIAL PROFILING of the worst and most ineffective kind.

Now, I remember also that when the Times Square bomber was at court, I think this was just last week. He said the war with Muslims, America’s war is just beginning, first drop of blood. I don’t think there’s any way to get away from these facts.

But I think there are people who want to somehow remind us all as President Bush did after 9/11, it’s not a war against Islam. President Bush went to a mosque –

O’REILLY: Well, there isn’t any theology involved in this at all from my perspective, Juan. But you live in the liberal precincts. You actually work for NPR, OK?

WILLIAMS: Yes.

Not anymore. Whoops, there goes your "Liberal Cred".

O’REILLY: And it’s not about — it’s about politics as I said. But — my analysis is that this Israel thing and that liberals feel that United states is somehow guilty in the world, of exploitation and backing the wrong side, and it makes it easier for them to come up with this kind of crazy stuff that, well, you can’t really say the Muslims attacked us on 9/11.

WILLIAMS: No, but what Barbara Walters said to you –

O’REILLY: Were they Norwegians? I mean, come on.

WILLIAMS: Wait a second though, wait, hold on, because if you said Timothy McVeigh, the Atlanta bomber, these people who are protesting against homosexuality at military funerals, very obnoxious, you don’t say first and foremost, we got a problem with Christians. That’s crazy.

O’REILLY: But it’s not at that level. It doesn’t rise near to that level.

Yes, Bill it actually does rise to that level - one of these guys in Maine tried to get ahold of a Radiological Dirty Bomb, would that be a big enough tragedy for you to notice the threat of Radical Christians to America? The one big difference is that their really isn't a Christian Theocratic Nation in this world, yet.

WILLIAMS: Correct. That’s — and when you said in the talking points memo a moment ago that there are good Muslims, I think that’s a point, you know?

O’REILLY: But everybody knows that, Juan. I mean, what are, in 3rd grade here or what?

WILLIAMS: No, you don’t — but you got to be — this is what Barbara Walters was saying –

O’REILLY: I got to be careful, you just said it. I got to be careful. I have got to qualify everything 50 times. You know what, Juan? I’m not doing it anymore. I’m not doing that anymore.

WILLIAMS: OK. So, be yourself. Take responsibility.

O’REILLY: But I’m not going to say, oh, it’s only a few. It’s only a tiny bit. It’s not, Juan. It’s whole nations, Iran, Afghanistan, Pakistan, whole nations.

Not the few, not the proud. Got it.

Go ahead, Mary Katharine. You want to get in here. Go.

MARY KATHARINE HAM, FOX NEWS POLITICAL ANALYST: First of all — first of all, the left only thinks that you should be careful with rhetoric in dangerous times when it’s a right winger using the rhetoric. When they’re doing it themselves, when it deals with other issues, they don’t care. So there’s a double standard there.

Second of all, there’s a distinction worth making between moderate and extremism Islam as you have made that point in the talking points, because frankly, as a conservative, if anybody who believes in the mission in Iraq where you are building up a society of moderate Muslims to push back on extremists, you have to believe in that distinction. So, I think that’s important to make.

Good Muslim/Bad Muslim - and the difference in your mind is what exactly?

But, this whole getting up and running off set because you don’t use the distinction in every single sentence you say, I think, was ridiculous and immature and they stopped the conversation, not you. It was them freaking out about a conservative position and leaving the stage to stop the conversation.

O’REILLY: All right. But, look, here’s the deal. Angela Merkel, all right, in the politically correct nation of Germany — Germany has gone from being a militaristic society to a politically correct society in a generation. OK?

More like two generations, unless he only means East Germany?

Angela Merkel comes out today and says, “You know what? This is out of control in our country. We can’t control it anymore.”

So, if it’s only a few, and a couple and just in the mountains of Pakistan, that’s all, why is Angela Merkel having such a hard time? Why are the French banning burqas? You know why –

(CROSSTALK)

O’REILLY: Come on.

WILLIAMS: Because — they have a problem because people have stopped emphasizing and she went on to say, this integration assimilation.

O’REILLY: Why, Juan? Why?

WILLIAMS: — to live side by side. That was wrong-headed and because she sees it as a threat. I think that she pointed out that two of every three or so children under the age of 5 in Germany is Muslim.

O’REILLY: Juan, who is posing a problem in Germany? Is it the Muslims who have come there or the Germans?

WILLIAMS: Absolutely.

So here again Williams is agreeing with O'Reilly that the problem isn't anything that the West had done to the Muslim World - such as instigate various political coups and install puppet dictators like the Shah of Iran or Saddam Hussein to stand as a bulwark against Soviet Russia - no, the problem is that those darn Muslims just don't know how to BEHAVE and be as minimally Muslim as possible so as not to upset the Bass fish.

O’REILLY: Who’s causing the problem?

WILLIAMS: I think — I think — no, no, wait. See, you did it again. It’s extremists. It’s people who refuse to –

O’REILLY: It’s not extremists.

WILLIAMS: It’s a German society. They are the ones causing that problem.

(CROSSTALK)

O’REILLY: But, Juan, Merkel — according to Merkel, it’s not extremists. It’s most of the 5 million Muslims who have come there aren’t assimilating. That’s the problem.

HAM: And also what happens, Bill — Bill, also what happens is that when moderate Muslims want to assimilate or want to stand up, they run the risk of being blown up by their co-religionist who are extreme. So, that is — that’s a threat that moderate Christians and Jews don’t think.

O’REILLY: But that doesn’t happen in America where most Muslim- Americans have assimilated.

HAM: Because our society demands that people assimilate. That’s what we demand and that’s why it works here.

America DEMANDS that people assimilate? IT DEMANDS? Pardon my non-french, but where the Flying Frack is that in the Constitution? I thought America "demands" freedom of expression, freedom of assembly and freedom of religion - not Assimilation!

Right here is the crux of the issue. O'Reilly wants to define "Good Muslims" as the ones who've learned to sit down, shutup and not buck the majority American culture by effectively disappearing within it without a trace. A "Good Muslim" is out of sight, and out of mind. But stand up and actually Look Muslim and you're ripe for a Williams FEAR profile.

As Brian Kilmeade asked Geraldo on the same day he was proclaiming "All Terrorist are Muslim" - "Don't we have a right to ask moderate Muslims - Are you with us, or them?"

So what's next - a loyalty oath for moderate Muslims to swear by or else it's off the the mini-Gitmo interment camps?

And then they briefly admitted that America does harbor some anti-Muslim bias, only to blow it off..

WILLIAMS: But, Bill, here’s a caution point. The other day in New York, some guy cuts a Muslim cabby’s neck and says he’s attacking him or you think about the protest at the mosque near Ground Zero –

HAM: That guy works at a liberal –

O’REILLY: Yes, he was a crackpot.

(CROSSTALK)

O’REILLY: Look, Americans are smart enough to know, Juan.

HAM: But I don’t think — the point is the rhetoric was not pushing him to do that.

Yeah, it's not like vicious anti-Muslim rhetoric could have had anything to do with it. Or the Arson at the Murfeesboro Mosque in Tennessee. Or the guy who ripped pages from the Qu'ran in front of Park 51. Or the general rise in anti-Islamic threats and attacks lately.

Yeah, they're all crazy people. Sure. Crazy people who all watch Fox.

WILLIAMS: I don’t know what is in that guy’s head. But I’m saying, we don’t want in America, people to have their rights violated to be attacked on the street because they heard a rhetoric from Bill O’Reilly and they act crazy. We’ve got to say to people as Bill was saying tonight, that guy is a nut.

Right, you don't want people to do what James Addkison did or Byron Williams attempted because of what Bernard Goldberg and Glenn Beck told them on Fox. You just don't want to be blamed for the results of the fear you spread, unlike the way you Blame RAP Music for the problems in Black America, and White peoples fear of them.

O’REILLY: He is a nut. And I said that about the guy in Florida — who wanted to burn the Koran. I came town on him like crazy.

WILLIAMS: Correct. There you go.

O’REILLY: But I’ll tell you what — if there was going to be a backlash against Muslims, it would happened after 9/11. It didn’t happen in this country.

WILLIAMS: It didn’t happen in this country.

O’REILLY: It did not happen here. So, we are smart enough to understand who the good Muslims are and who the bad Muslims are. But to diminish the whole thing as the left wants to do, very dangerous. I have got to go, guys, as always.

WILLIAMS: That would be hypocrisy.

O’REILLY: All right. Thank you very much.

The left isn't "diminishing the whole thing" to it simply being about anti-Islamic fear and hatred. It's really about people like O'Reilly and Williams attempting to impose Cultural Supremacy by DEMANDING Assimilation by anyone who dares to exercise their Constitutionally protected freedoms in a way that they don't agree with or like. Profiling is common, but also commonly wrong in being a lazy short-hand short-cut to understanding anything about either an individual or a group.

They want to blame "The Left" for taking away their ability to rationalize and excuse cultural/religious profiling and bigotry? Trying to Defend O'Reilly cultural supremacy has so far gotten Kilmeade in trouble, and Williams Fired.

They have no one to blame but themselves, the left didn't make this happen - they did.

Vyan

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